This dynamic trio, which had a longevity that lasted actually longer than their famed legendary trio Air, represents a wild and unabashed energy of the 70s and 80s which is hard to emulate even now. Having heard the best of the 60s and early 70s music of Ornette Coleman and others we were determined to raise the bar a little higher. Steve McCall was also a great human being who always strived for perfection and was very critical of others that would inhibite him from achieving that goal. Fred Hopkins could read anything I put in front of him, even he arranges it upside down on his music stand.