I sat out to create "thuds and grunts" almost a year ago. In its original conception it was just a six-song ep. We lost members and hope, found reasons to clench our teeth and carry on. Out of a stroke of luck I discovered production wasn't that hard. So it was at the end of the 2011 summer that I set out produce my own full length album with my wonderful song writing partner Ethan Larsh. What you hear is the result of some learning and some things that aren't quite idiocy, but some form of stubborn attachment. So dance and sing if you want. It is definitely what the guilty do. - bobby reed theguiltracket